You Think You're Saved, But You're Not!
(January 2002)
What a horrifying reality, to think you will enter God's presence on the day of your death, but then, come to find out on that day, you were actually deceived, and you find yourself in hell. Such is, and will be, the terror of most who call themselves Christians today (Matthew 7:13-14; Luke 13:24; 2 Peter 2:2). They will find themselves weeping and gnashing their teeth (e.g. Matthew 8:12; 22:1-14; 25;14-30; Luke 13:28).
If you are involved with the kind of Christianity that views the "church of Christ," or Billy Graham, or Rick Warren, or Joel Osteen, or James Dobson, or Pat Robertson, or John MacArthur, or Tony Evans, or Greg Laurie, or Charles Stanley, or Chuck Smith, or Fred Price, or J. Vernon McGee, or Charles Blake, or Chuck Swindoll, or Gene Scott, or Harold Camping (Family Radio), or John Piper, or T. D. Jakes, or David Jeremiah, or Charles Spurgeon, or Dave Hunt, or David W. Cloud, or Perry F Rockwood, or Neil Anderson, or Robert Schuller, or Jack Hayford, or Benny Hinn, or Miles McPherson, or Ray Comfort, or Jim Cobrae, or Chuck Colson, or C. S. Lewis, or Pope John Paul, or Hank Hanegraaff, or Paul Chappell, or any of the like (or any of the likes on "Christian" TV or radio) as godly men, you are not saved. Why? Because, you are on the broad way (Matthew 7:13; 2 Peter 2:2; 2 Timothy 4:3). You have not the characteristic of Christ's sheep (John 10:5). And, men such as these are wells without water (2 Peter 2:17).
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Darwin Fish, whom Kat and Budge were quoting extensively from and "following"
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Posts: 23428 11/07/09 21:28:08 Main "Foot Washer" |
Darwin Fish, apparently is the ONLY one they now trust, and who is Darwin?
A one man religion, who apparently thinks he is divine. Sad. http://www.atruechurch.info/savednot.html 
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Posts: 23428 11/07/09 21:29:02 Main "Foot Washer" |
Why would they YOKE THEMSELVES to a nutcase like DARWIN FISH?
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Posts: 3591 11/07/09 22:43:45 |
The ONLY thing I quoted from was Chuck Smith's book and posted a verbatum quote.
Here it is. In his book, Answers For Today (copyright 1993), Smith says the following. Paul points out that some say, "I'm of Paul," while others say, "I'm of Apollos." He asked, "Isn't that carnal?" But what's the difference between saying that or saying, "I'm a Baptist," "I'm a Presbyterian," "I'm a Methodist," "I'm a Catholic"? I have found that the more spiritual a person becomes, the less denominational he is. We should realize that we're all part of the Body of Christ and that there aren't any real divisions in the Body. We're all one. What a glorious day when we discover that God loves the Baptists! - And the Presbyterians, and the Methodists, and the Catholics. We're all His and we all belong to Him. We see the whole Body of Christ, and we begin to strive together rather than striving against one another. (p. 157)
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Posts: 3591 11/07/09 22:55:42 |
Would anyone here say that is about as ecumenical as you can get? Does anyone here believe we should be coming together with the catholic church as ONE in the
Lord Jesus Christ?!:
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Posts: 3591 11/07/09 22:58:54 |
Again.. I don't know why you said I was quoting ANYBODY extensively. I posted only ONE quote at all. So why your need to misrepresent me, Tan? I will
accept any forthcoming apology.
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Posts: 3591 11/07/09 23:02:47 |
And what do you mean I'm 'following' that person. How bizarre. I don't even know who he is. If his website is where I got Chuck's quote,
that's all it amounted to.
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Posts: 3591 11/07/09 23:12:13 |
Oh Boy, I see you're firing all your cap guns. Darwin is the "only one I TRUST"?? Trust??? I trust the Lord Jesus Christ and his WORD, period. I
DON'T put my trust in ANY human being....and I follow only Jesus Christ.
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Posts: 7879 11/08/09 00:03:08 |
Fact of the matter is I mentioned the fact that jamesbeard@rapidnet is a site run by Rick Meisel who used to be in partnership with Darwin Fish, and so some of
the articles that were posted from that site were written by Darwin Fish, and Tan is right, Fish as well as Rick Meisel hold themselves as the sole authority
on faith and practice. Go figure. I was trying to warn you both that it is not a reliable site.
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Posts: 3591 11/08/09 00:15:13 |
I didn't quote either of them, I posted a VERBATUM quote of Chuck Smith from his book with page number. So what's your point in bringing up Fish...OR
Meisel????
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Posts: 3591 11/08/09 00:17:52 |
I happen to 98% disagree with you about meisel's site. Your opinion is only your opinion.
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Posts: 7879 11/08/09 00:24:14 |
That's find Katzee, have you ever had personal dealings with the man? Have you ever questioned him about the doctrines he espouses? Try it sometime. I did
and he was not very nice. I wish I would have kept his responding e-mails. I did share them with a few other sisters back in the day, but they have long since
disposed of them too. He is nasty, and will actually threaten to sue you, even if you do live in another country. LOL Be my guest. I want no part of that false
phony lying whatever. And you claim we lack discernment? At least I did my homework concerning him.
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Posts: 3591 11/08/09 00:33:11 |
I couldn't care less about his doctrine or your personal problem with him. I use material that I believe is accurate wherever I find it, period.
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Posts: 7879 11/08/09 03:35:18 |
Katzee1 wrote:That's good, then ask him some time about hating mother and father, not the way God says as in preference to who will continue the seed line for the Savior. They actually teach you to HATE your own father and mother, sisters and brothers to the exclusion of everyone else. He has not problem condemning anyone to hell that does not agree with him. So maybe you chose the right person after all. My prayer is you will take the time to investigate Mr. Meisel and Darwin Fish. They are scary folks, and if you believe them, you are in worse shape than I ever expected. Mind you, with the type of posts I have read of yours on CARM, you may just fit right in with them. Check them out thoroughly. I honestly believe you will be disgusted in the end. You may want to check out Timothy Williams in the process, he is another who holds to the same things as Meisel and Fish. Actually Fish is even worse. Or you could write and ask Dierdre Bobgan about them. She has had first hand experience with them. Or even John MacArthur. |
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Posts: 7879 11/08/09 04:18:37 |
Check this out, every thing, the whole page, and don't forget to click on the links to what they really mean.
They sound good, but are they? Unless you can prove specifically what is posted is incorrect, PLEASE don't waste our time or yours! Examples of criticisms that will gladly be responded to: Notifying us of a misquote and/or using scripture to rightly to defend what you say. Our purpose is not to provide you a sounding board!In other words, DON'T QUESTION US! And I experienced what happened first hand with them and with Timothy Williams. Darwin Fish: Sicko Darwin Fish Please research him, you ain't gonna like what you read there. Then check out Timothy E. Williams. Oh yea another one just like the other two. Do your homework before you get bent all out of shape. If you believe them, then you have to YOKE with them. scary stuff! |
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Posts: 1619 11/08/09 07:11:24 |
Ruth said-He has not problem condemning anyone to hell that does not agree with him.
Now that's what I call the pot calling the kettle black. I don't know anything about Darwin Fish nor do I care to... but HEY Ruth people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. That would be you! |
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Posts: 19221 11/08/09 07:14:02 Moderator |
Had:
BUTT THE HECK OUT. Stop meddling into others affair, Mr. Nosy Busybody. |
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Posts: 56 11/10/09 08:36:10 |
It is a S-A-D day when brothers and sisters in Christ are fighting over such trivial matters...! This is the reason I quit posting extensively on boards after many years on the net... One has enough to worry about catholicism, islam, and the purpose driven movement.... One can imagine that the droids of catholicism are cheering as this site self implodes... 
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Posts: 12006 11/10/09 09:53:00 |
OCS wrote: 
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Posts: 19221 11/10/09 14:55:50 Moderator |
OCS wrote:Hey Tyler!! How are you doing brother! Good seeing you! Exactly! This is exactly WHY I want this to be kept private or at least keep it on Carm instead of spilling over onto HERE. Thanks for putting into words how I feel about this! Also, not everyone on here is involved in this fight, me included. |
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Katzee1 |
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Posts: 3591 11/10/09 16:07:39 |
I agree too OCS and Baydoll. It's tragic when Christians treat others the way I've seen here and elsewhere. They might as well put guns to their heads.
I feel like I have had a taste of hell. There's no Christian love and regard for the brethren, just hateful behavior toward them. That's why the site
is self imploding. I think I've had my fill of 'Christian' message boards. I'm with you on that too, OCS. What has gone on is not unique but
the current incident is the worst I've personally seen.
God bless you two. I'm off to greener pastures. |
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- Discussion - Catholic & Christian
- Pagans And The Catholic Church
- The New World Order - Religion In Culture & News
- Buzz Bombs
- SNIP-SNIP-SNIP The Catholic Cutting Room
- Fatima - Where the NWO Meets Revelation
- The Law VS Catholic Church
- Apparitions - Signs & Wonders - Visions
- Problems With The Clergy
- Catholic Apologetics Material
- B-16 Classics
- Book Discussion
- Remedial Reformation History
