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Posts: 35551 06/25/09 18:29:19 |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_michael_jackson Farrah Fawcet is dead too, today. I know this is off topic, but MJ definitely a tragedy of twisted world values meeting world celebrity. They said he only weighted 100lbs when he died--he always looked like a male anorexic, and was expected to start a 50 million dollar tour soon in London that would be worldwide. remember most of these celebrities are OWNED.
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Posts: 23418 06/25/09 18:49:18 Main "Foot Washer" |
Well, I guess he will find out about THRILLER firsthand now.
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Posts: 226 06/25/09 19:32:08 |
The guy probably had AIDS. He was one sick dude, not just physically.
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Posts: 4379 06/25/09 22:22:30 Moderator |
Jesus said:
What good is it to gain the whole world, yet lose your soul..... |
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Posts: 23418 06/26/09 20:45:08 Main "Foot Washer" |
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Posts: 3970 06/28/09 15:15:51 |
Here is the thing. We do not know the state of this man's soul. WE HAVE NO IDEA...to judge anyone in the world is flat out wrong. That is FOR GOD ALONE TO
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To claim he probably had AIDS is IDIOTIC. What a judgment call. I was no fan, but to see anyone who seemed to miserable to loose their life, at such a young age grieves my heart. You think God is laughing? Come on Budge, TAN, and LittleOne, we cannot rejoice in this.... I for one hope at the very last second he called out to God!! GOD does not want anyone to perish!! Death of a soul...if that is indeed the case, is far from something to joke about!!! |
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Posts: 578 06/28/09 15:33:24 |
midnightbirdgirl wrote: On another forum I check out from time to time I had read that Michael was led to the Lord by Andre Crouch. |
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Posts: 3970 06/28/09 15:40:42 |
Heretic, I know Crouch is a gospel singer and producer, don't know much more than that...
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Posts: 226 06/28/09 16:15:01 |
Andre Crouch is the head honcho of TBN.
And I am sorry MBG if my post offended you, it was based on his past behavior. There has never been any sign of remorse publicly and what got me more than anything, is the fact that the media and pagan cults idealized him both in life and now in death. Yet they have no problem blaspheming our LORD. Oh by the way, MBG, it's Ruth116 here. LOL |
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Posts: 226 06/28/09 16:23:23 |
WHEN "GODS" DIE
By Paul Proctor
I live in an area of the country where a number of celebrities reside. Seeing them in stores, restaurants, churches and in the car next to you is as common here as running into friends or family in a small town. In fact, many celebrities from other parts of the country have moved here to "Music City" and surrounding areas, in part, because we don't really have paparazzi - at least not yet - and people generally leave them alone. This allows them to exercise their godhood elsewhere, take their profits and praise from starry-eyed ticket buyers out on the road and return home to a semi state of normalcy - something that is undoubtedly necessary for both sanity and survival. The sudden and tragic death of Michael Jackson, like many other superstars before him, underscores that need. Unfortunately, like drugs and alcohol, those who become addicted to fame are all too often destroyed by it. And strangely, celebrities themselves, and those around them, can often see it coming, but do little to stop it. In Michael Jackson's case, his ex-wife, Lisa Marie Presley, reportedly recalled him saying to her years ago that he expected to meet the same end as her father, Elvis - and that it was Michael's self-destructive behavior that eventually compelled her to leave him. Watching a star fade is a lot like witnessing a terrible hangover or someone undergoing detox. It isn't pretty - but then, ugly sells tabloids and TV shows, doesn't it? So the market for shameless behavior and self-destruction is huge. The fact that a large segment of our society would find entertainment value in depravity, suffering and death only signifies how near the end we are as a nation. After all, what's worse: being eaten alive in the coliseum by lions or being devoured day after day by the media and the masses? At least, with the lions, it's all over in a few terrifying moments. It must be excruciating to descend from the mountaintop of celebrity worship and adoration into the cruel and crowded streets of apathy and indifference to finish living a once glorious life as a has-been, or worse, a laughingstock. And, the younger you are, the longer that terrible torment and withdrawal must be endured - which probably explains why so many child stars have self-destructed over the years trying to regain what they lost. Yet, one need only look at a few of the American Idol auditions to see how desperately people want that kind of stardom. They will cry for it, lie for it, curse for it and die for it. And sadly, many have. Still, we applaud those that succeed and pity those who fail - making ourselves part of the problem rather than part of the solution, which is giving glory and honor to Whom it is due: the Lord Jesus Christ. He is worthy of praise and adoration and we are not; and the moment we think we are, the lions are loosed and our fears and fragility are revealed for all to see. Like many others, I was recently moved by the video performance and inspiring story of Susan Boyle from the show, Britain's Got Talent - only to be shocked and saddened by how severely the pressure of the contest adversely affected her later. The moment her anticipated win was threatened by the outstanding voice of another highly praised contestant, she lost it emotionally and never fully recovered - and her endearing image was forever changed.
Even now her handlers and counselors help her cope day to day as she struggles her way to stardom. She's living the dream - or, at least, trying to, while those around her hope and pray that it won't become a nightmare.
If only the world's star chasers and stargazers would see that there's real peace and joy in living a quiet life for God. The Bible encourages us to do just that. The view may not be as breathtaking, but we're a lot less likely to lose our minds in the madness or die from the fall. Related Articles: 2 - Michael Jackson Feared He Would
Die Like Elvis Presley
posted with Paul's permission
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Posts: 3970 06/28/09 16:26:31 |
I do not get easily offended. You know that Ruth
And is is OH so great to "see" you! I don't think many folks are public about what they have done, when the come to repentance, regardless of their celebrity. I doubt the guy was gay...fact is I do not know. For the sake of discussion, I don't think he molested anyone either. I think he was a mentally disturbed man, who was abused as a child. Seems he was emotionally locked in at about age 9. I think he loved kids, but thought he was one. I do not think he understood limits or appropriate behaviors. I think he was just a sad lost confused man....he was playing Halloween in the one video...like a child who is clueless....he played at life his whole life, wanting to be noticed, yet hiding behind walls. He it seems was never actually loved personally by anyone...from what we were allowed to see. I also, do not think he ever loved personally loved. Remember he was raised JW...what a mess. My heart grieves for all who followed him...because like him, they are very likely lost in this world. I pray that he was saved. |
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Posts: 35551 06/29/09 14:35:35 |
midnightbirdgirl wrote: I dont think God is laughing, if anything, I believe that Michael Jackson is a tragedy. God would be crying over his lost soul. The evidence for EXTREME sexual and physical and other abuse of him as a child, is HIGH which probably led to the perversion of him sexually as an adult.
Ive read books on Michael Jackson, and one reason he got so twisted was the abuse of the father, and his older brothers bringing girls into hotel rooms where
he was "sleeping" and only 8 years old. He also had a rare condition that affected the lungs and intestines, they are reporting about.
They "own" our celibrities, do not think it's only the political elites dancing with Satan. Some of course know what they are messing with and some are deceived. I do not know what category he was in. Why there is a small chance he called out to God, maybe in the split second, he realized his shot of Demoral was doing bad stuff to his heart, do not take the "everyone goes to heaven" deathbed tactic of the Catholics. One told me maybe Hitler repented yeah right after he shot himself in the head? Overall God will be His judge, but his life should serve as warning for those who do not have salvation in Jesus Christ, who seek after world fame. He lived in a twisted world, and with too many handlers who wanted to profit off of him, that much is sure. To even think they saw this man as capable of 10 if not 50 concerts is insane. |
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Posts: 35551 06/29/09 14:37:35 |
I believe Susan Boyle had her nervouse collapse because she was a REAL PERSON, and maybe saw through the FAME machine and stood up against it. |
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Posts: 1314 06/29/09 18:16:49 Member |
I know that he had rejected the Jehovah's Witness beliefs he had grown up with, but I didn't know what he clung to. The fact that he was seeking
Christ, if he hadn't found Him yet is reason to hope.
I agree with mgb. God never laughs at a lost soul. 
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Posts: 226 06/29/09 19:54:31 |
World's Leading Internet Evangelist Claims Michael Jackson is in Hell LivePrayer.com Founder Says What a Person Believes Matters...for Eternity ST. PETERSBURG, Florida, June 29 /Christian Newswire/ -- Pastor Bill Keller, founder of Liveprayer.com, submits the following and is available for comment: In all of the intense media coverage after the death of pop superstar Michael Jackson, the one thing that has driven me crazy has been hearing over and over, often by high profile Christians, that Michael is now at peace in Heaven. Really? I hear this same thing whenever a famous person dies, regardless what they believed during their life, as well as from people when a family member or close friend dies, again, regardless what they believed during their life. If this is true, than what is the use of the Gospel? If this is true, why should anyone waste their time and effort telling people about Jesus? If this is true, than the death of Jesus on the cross was a meaningless exercise, his resurrection didn't need to occur, and people can believe whatever they want during this life and make it to Heaven. THAT MY FRIEND IS THE UNIVERSALISTIC LIE FROM HELL!!! The fact is God made only ONE plan of salvation. There is only ONE way to everlasting life and that is faith in Jesus Christ, the Jesus Christ of the Bible. There are NOT many roads that lead to God, only one, the Jesus road!!! You can't believe whatever you want and die and end up in Heaven. That is a lie from satan that is leading millions of souls to the flames of hell for all eternity. WHAT YOU BELIEVE DOES MATTER!!! It is arguable that Michael Jackson was the most recognized person on the planet. Despite his vast fame and material possessions, Michael was bankrupt in the things that really matter in life, joy, peace, contentment, HOPE! Those things only comes through having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and living according to God's Word. After his child molestation trial concluded, on June 17, 2005 I wrote these words, "Even though he has been acquitted of the charges brought against him, the moment he dies he will stand before The Judge, God Himself. At that moment, if he dies without Christ he will be standing all alone. There will be no high priced defense attorney, no family, no fans, only God who will judge him for his sins and cast him into everlasting darkness. At that moment, if he has accepted Christ as his Savior by faith, he won't be standing alone. Next to him will be the ultimate defense attorney, JESUS CHRIST, who will tell The Judge that his sins have been paid for and Michael Jackson will be ushered into God's presence for all eternity." Sadly, Michael grew up in the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. This is the cult born out of the depraved mind of Charles Taze Russell and denies the very deity of Christ. You can go to Google and type in "cults Jehovah's Witnesses" and it will give you many websites to document their false theology. However, Michael has not only followed the false theology of the Jehovah's Witnesses, he made the choice to live his life in rebellion to God and His Word and follow all kinds of false religions and teachings. During his 2005 trial for child molestation, instead of turning to Christ for strength, he turned to a cult I have exposed and talked about, Kaballah which was popularized by singer Madonna, signified by the "red string" bracelet he wore throughout the trial. He had during his life several high profile spiritual advisors, Orthodox Jew Rabbi Shmuley Boteach and New Age tool charlatan Deepak Chopra, a tool of satan I have warned you about in past Devotionals. Jackson was also heavily influenced by several of his brothers who are deep in the false religion of Islam. Clearly Michael Jackson was a man lost and searching. I know it makes people feel better when a famous person or someone they know dies, though think that they are in Heaven. This is why I have literally given my life 24/7/365 these past 20 years for the Gospel, because the FACT is, those who die without Jesus will not be in Heaven, but in the flames of hell for all eternity. What you believe matters, and based on what he believes, Michael Jackson is not in Heaven, but in eternal torment and punishment for his sins. I realize many people will point out all of the great humanitarian deeds Jackson did during his life, the multi millions he has given to charity and those are wonderful acts that should be commended. But we can't work or buy our way into Heaven. No amount of money or good works saves you, only faith in Christ and God's grace (Ephesians 2:8,9). The fact is, Michael Jackson like all men is born into this life with sin in addition to those sins he has committed during his life, and it is that sin that separates him from a Holy God. The moment he died he stood before God and the number of records he sold, the number of people who saw him perform, all of his good deeds didn't mean anything. The ONLY thing that mattered was the he rejected the Jesus of the Bible by faith as his Lord and Savior. That is all that will matter when you take your last breath my friend. If you have never made the commitment to ask Christ into your heart and life by faith, let me tell you that the most important decision you will make in this life is not who you will marry, or where you will live, or what kind of job you will have. The most important decision you will make in this life is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. God's desire is that none be lost, that all come to repentance. He is speaking to you today. The Bible says that TODAY is the day of salvation. I would invite you to go to, www.liveprayer.com/bdy_salvatn.html. Pray to ask God to open your heart, read the words, watch the short video, pray the prayer, and accept God' s free gift to you today. WHAT YOU BELIEVE MATTERS.....FOR ALL ETERNITY!!! |
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Posts: 35551 06/29/09 20:05:44 |
Now this is SAD... http://www.libertypost.or...eadart.cgi?ArtNum=268045 Michael
Jackson was into the occult more then just Kabbalah...[his chances for going top heaven, well pretty low]
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Posts: 226 06/29/09 21:07:26 |
Budge where did you get the idea about the occult from? I don't doubt it, but the link only talks about some who, stupidly enough, have committed suicide
upon hearing of his own demise.
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Posts: 35551 06/30/09 08:06:31 |
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Posts: 35551 06/30/09 08:16:22 |
Ruth, I believe Michael Jackson was a "mind control" victim which many celebrities are, I am not sure if this is something you have studied yet, but
it is very dark and insidious. He probably even had split personalities which would account for the fakey high voice, and dress up times.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1876.cfm I remember reading about this too... Flashback 2003: Michael Jackson Paid 150k for Voodoo Curse on Spielberg, GeffenEveryone is speculating about where Michael Jackson went bad. Was it abuse? Neglect? Fame? Fortune? I'll tell you what it was. It began with membership in the Jehovah's Witnesses (the anti-Christian cult) and then moved into full-blown Satanism. His death is sad, but it's a testament to the reality of demonism and the self-destructive nature of occultism. His curse didn't worse, and as far we know, he suffered the sad fate of all those who follow Lucifer. Note the skull and crossbones and all-seeing, as well as other occult imagery on Dangerous. -Jay LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Embattled pop star Michael Jackson wears a prosthetic nose and once paid $150,000 for a "voodoo curse" to kill director Steven Spielberg despite being deep in debt, Vanity Fair magazine reported on Monday. Vanity Fair, in an article for its March 11 edition, also reports that Jackson bleaches his skin white because he does not like being black. The 44-year-old singer sometimes refers to black people as "spabooks," the magazine said Jackson's manager did not immediately return phone calls and a faxed request for comment on the article. Jackson's London publicist could not be reached for comment. The onetime King of Pop has been dogged by controversy for months, first over his odd appearance in a California courtroom last November. That same month, Jackson stunned fans in Berlin by briefly dangling his young son from a hotel balcony. And in February a British television documentary that aired to blockbuster ratings both in England and the United States caused a stir when Jackson told his interviewer that he slept in the same room, and sometimes the same bed, as young boys. Vanity Fair reported in the article that in 2000 Jackson attended a voodoo ritual in Switzerland where a witch doctor promised that Spielberg, music mogul David Geffen and 23 other people on the entertainer's list of enemies would die. Jackson, who underwent a "blood bath" as part of the ritual, then ordered his former business adviser Myung-Ho Lee to wire $150,000 to a bank in Mali for a voodoo chief named Baba, who sacrificed 42 cows for the ceremony, the magazine reported. Vanity Fair reported that Jackson wears a page-boy wig and a prosthesis that serves as the tip of his nose. The magazine interviewed a source close to Jackson who said that, without the device Jackson resembles a mummy with two nostril holes. According to the magazine, Jackson's extravagant lifestyle and declining record sales have left him $240 million in debt. The article, which relies in part on court filings in a $12 million lawsuit against Jackson by Lee, said that since the mid-1990s the reclusive entertainer has relied on a series of multimillion-dollar loans to cover his expenses. In addition to the lawsuit by Lee, Jackson is also enmeshed in a $21 million court battle with German concert promoter Marcel Avram over canceled Millennium concerts and has been sued by Sotheby's auction house for $1.6 million. The magazine reported that Jackson must pay off the principal on a $200 million loan within a few years, which will be nearly impossible unless he sells his most valuable asset, the Beatles song catalog. He owns only half of the catalog while Sony Corp. owns the other half in an arrangement that might make selling his share difficult, Vanity Fair reported. Jackson has also run up nearly $4 million per year in expenses from his Neverland Valley ranch in central California, where in April 2001 his amusement park equipment was nearly repossessed for late payments, the magazine said. |
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Posts: 226 06/30/09 09:00:11 |
Thanks for that info Budge.
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